False! Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa: Woman Teacher at CCCM, Direct Quotes…”Christians are never to be the judge of anyone”
The following is from a conversation which I still have on file, from this woman:
From August 17, 2011:
“We [Christians] are never to be the judge of anyone.” (My notes: Oh really? What about 1 Corinthians 5:13?)
“James 4:11 and 12 tells us to leave the judgment up to our Father as there is enough sin in our own lives.” (My notes: Doesn’t Matthew 7:5 say to take the plank out of our OWN eye to help our brother out?)
“We are not to go around on a witch hunt looking for sin in others. If someone you are listening to doesn’t match up to what the Lord has written then you are free to remove yourself.” (My notes: 1 Corinthians 5:13? Yes, Romans 16:17 says basically to mark and avoid people who do not teach what the Lord has written and who cause offenses and divisions contrary to sound doctrine! And, actually, my Bible says beware the false prophets, and not in these exact words, we are our brothers’ keeper and to confront the evil deeds and evil teachings and should hold ourselves to the same standard, see Matthew 18 and Luke 17:3 and also Romans 16:17 for an example.)
“Leave the judgment to God as that is not our place or what we have been called to do.” (My notes: Actually God has said that righteous judgment is our place in 1 Corinthians 5, John 7:24 and throughout the Word.)
“You are decisive [divisive] and unloving in your spirit and that may be why others and myself wish not associate with you.” (My notes: Okay, so here she is issuing a judgment on me after she says Christians are to never judge anyone. And avoiding me due to teaching sound doctrine as opposed to unsound doctrine. Romans 16:17. LOL!)
From December 27, 2010:
“The evidence of a shepherd is the Word of God taught line upon line in truth. I know that my pastor, Chuck Smith, has done this for over 40 years.” (My notes: My Bible says we will know them by their fruits, and one of the fruits is speaking the truth, by the way, not lies, see Ephesians 5:9. Any ol’ stranger on the street can stand up and read the Bible word for word in front of a crowd – doesn’t mean they are a Christian).
How do this woman’s teachings compare to the Word of God, the Holy Scriptures? Further, is their “enough sin in our own lives” that we are supposed to turn a blind eye to the sin of our brothers and sisters in Christ? Or are we to confront them and if necessary rebuke them? Is this really a Biblical teaching here? The prophets of old, Jesus and the apostles all confronted sin. Were they wrong and sinning for doing this? Or were they acting like true disciples? Since when is it a sin to confront sin or evil to confront evil?
The Apostle Paul:
“I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: 10Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. 12For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? 13But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person” (1 Cor. 5).
“Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them” (Romans 16:17).
“Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear” (1 Timothy 5:20).
Jesus Christ warned against hypocritical judgment and unrighteous judgment, not righteous judgment or Biblical discernment:
“Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment” (John 7:24).
“Thou hypocrite, FIRST cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and THEN shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye” (Matthew 7:5).
Pastor Tim Conway on Matthew 7 and ‘judging righteous judgment’
What is the difference between discernment and judging?
Putting all judgment aside, here is her husband Ed introducing a Knight of Malta to speak at Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa (Knights of Malta have allegiance to the Pope!) turn to the 5 minute mark:
The evidence of a shepherd is good fruit, in public and in private, not only teaching line by line from the pulpit.
Speaking of judgmental, was this judgmental? Is it judgmental to call down God’s judgment on someone and for Chuck Smith to wish “hurt” on a critic?